This is the second episode in a two-part podcast series with Ashwini Vasanth, an engineer and colleague at Nutanix via the Through the Corporate Glass podcast. You can find episode one here. In the continuation of our conversation, we spoke about transitioning into product management. Ashwini asked me about a presentation topic I gave at Product School in 2019 called “Breaking Into Technical Product Management“. She is a great interviewer and I really enjoyed speaking with her. Listen to the episode below.

PRODUCT MANAGEMENT: BREAKING INTO PM (EP. 2)

In the second part of this conversation we discuss getting into a product role. Should you target a large or a small company? What does that mean and why can that drive a different career and learning experience? Listen now to hear our discussion including the following topics.

• A framework to think about which first job to take
• Internal or external-facing product management? Which one is best for you? 
• How customer voice builds decision authority and why engineering loves it
• How being a remote PM changed during COVID
• Adjacent roles to product management which can be pre-PM opportunities

Episode page on Through the Corporate Glass: Breaking Into Product Management

ABOUT LUKE

Luke Congdon is a career product manager living and working in Silicon Valley since 2000. His areas of focus include enterprise software, virtualization, and cloud computing. He has built and brought numerous products to market including start-up MVPs and billion-dollar product lines. Luke currently lives in San Francisco. To contact, connect via luke@lukecongdon.com or https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukecongdon/.